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Jin Kugu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.10 19:08:00 -
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Can you harass someone in real life if you don't know who that person is in real life? |

Jin Kugu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.11 12:14:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote: It isn't our job to dictate to people how to maintain a base standard of human decency toward one another, and we're not going to do so.
The bottom line is that it's down to members of the community to know where the line crosses from common decency to harassment. We will not draw a line in the sand so that people can skirt on the edge of it and bend the rules as much as possible.
This isn't a debate about what constitutes "harassment". If you're not familiar with the word, find the definition in a dictionary and that will satisfy your question.
What we will do, is continue to use best judgement on a case by case basis to ensure that real life harassment is kept out of the game, and ensure that those who choose to involve themselves in such activities are no longer permitted to be part of our community.
Cut and dried, that's all we have to say on the matter.
I hear being passive aggresive is a good thing for community managers. People asking for an explanation for a ban wave might not be looking to bend the rules. They might, you know, want to know why people were banned.
You will need to provide a reason for the recent wave of bans hitting the scamming and ganking community and a broad don't harass people in real life doesn't cut it.
It looks like it is fallof from the erotica1/bonus room but even then some bans don't make sense. |

Jin Kugu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:16:00 -
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S'No Flake wrote:Well, you have two options then :) 1. leave now 2. try to find where the line is and CCP will make you leave. In your place, i would choose 2. This will help out other players avoiding stepping on the same line 
Maybe these people should be banned for whatever happend vov
All I know is that ccp should be done with shady community management. Somer was handled clearly, why can't this be done in a similar fashion?
Instead we have CCP Falcon insulting people and mass indefinte bans without explanation.
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Jin Kugu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:51:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote: The core issue here is people getting banned for things they weren't involved in.
Here's the thing. You (like everyone else posting) have no idea why the bans were done. You are simply speculating to push your agenda. Mr Epeen 
You just proved the point dummy. We need to know why people are banned. If it's all bonus room fallout then ccp just has to confirm this.
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Jin Kugu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.11 16:01:00 -
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S'No Flake wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:People who had nothing to do with the bonus rooms got banned too just for hanging out with e1. Or maybe they did RMT Or run a bot or two Or have a program running in background alerting the local spike Or they got away first time with warp to zero but four a way around and still use it Or cyno titan something  Or played the drop the drone pick the drone after it was declared illegal Or all the stuff you can do but you are not allowed to do If all the bans were handed in one wave it doesn't mean they were for the same illegality.
Please stop posting about things you obviously know nothing about.
Yes, the scamming and ganking community was the target of mass bans because ... botting
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Jin Kugu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:08:00 -
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Gregor Parud wrote: Yes and historically said people will be quite forthcoming and honest about what happened. Perhaps they should all , as a group, waver their rights to privacy and ask a GM/DEV to openly state and discuss what really happened.
Yes/no?
You really think ccp doesn't discuss bans because of privacy concerns? Or maybe because it's just easier to deal with it when you don't need to respond to the community. |

Jin Kugu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:12:00 -
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Pleistarchus Shikkoken wrote:Titus Tallang wrote:CCP Falcon,
can we expect some clear-cut rules on what you would classify as 'real life harassment'?
Use common sense ******* 
Do you realise that all of the actions these groups partake in are bannable in most other MMOs. Common sense needs a frame of reference and there's just nothing like eve.
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Jin Kugu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.11 21:11:00 -
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funkybacon on the issue
http://funkybacon.blogspot.be/2014/09/as-ban-hammer-swings.html
"What we don't have is a reasonably clear definition of what actually constitutes harassment in terms of Eve. Things that are entirely unacceptable in a game like World of Warcraft for example, happen inside Eve with impunity, and are an accepted part of the norm. There is nothing "decent" about a bad guy, and if being a bad guy is to be an acceptable profession within Eve, rules and boundaries need to be made clear to give people a gauge on what is acceptable, and what is clearly over the line. These lines are important not only for those people living the life of a villain, but also for those tasked with enforcing the rule of law, such as it exists within our game."
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Jin Kugu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.11 21:27:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Where did I say it was the banned person protesting his innocence. Apologists like you do it just fine for them. CCP never ban people lightly. You have to push them and push them hard to get yourself banned permanently. Everyone that got banned deserved it. They pushed and now they're crying because CCP pushed back. And they're not crying on this forum. They're crying (and being destroyed for it) on all the unofficial forums. It's a joy to behold. Mr Epeen 
Wow, where did you learn all this wisom? |
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